wandering apricot

June 24, 2008

language interference

Filed under: uncategorized — apricot @ 4:36 pm

The language intensive has begun. So the befuddlement of my brain begins; I have always had a very odd hitch in my foreign language skills, which I think might be the consequences of my days as an ESL student. Those days themselves were pretty hilarious in retrospect; I arrived in the US speaking no English, and I got placed in the ESL classroom with a bunch of Spanish speaking kids. It was confusing, to say the least. My Mandarin was more or less dormant in jr high and high school, when I took 5 years of Francais.

Nowadays, when searching for the right words, I often think in combinations of languages. So I have a mix of Mandarin-French floating in my head when I’m trying to think in a foreign language creating such spoken jumbles as : “mes parents zai4 la Chine, et wo4 suis zhong1guo4 ren2.”

Mandarin and French are very polite to each other inside my head, stepping in for each other where one is found wanting. What little Spanish Mr. P has taught me occasionally makes an appearance, although the quarters of Latin from college never surface (perhaps because Latin is never really spoken? My prof, at least, wasn’t so interested in teaching us to speak Latin). I am still subconsciously traumatized by the ridiculous conjugational (sp?) madness of Latin.

I love Chinese grammar, which is delightfully straightforward: “I go store. Tomorrow I go store.” No worries about plurals, tense, articles…at least, not to the same degree as English. Prepositions are also pretty easy. My mother, who learned English as an adult, constantly bemoans the complexity of English grammar; I wonder how she’d fare with Latin.

The intensive is going well. I really like the professor and particularly like the TA, who has an astonishing energy level. And I dreaded drill in college, but it’s rather fun now. I feel old and fogeyish as (I think) only grad student in the room aside from the TA, but no matter. I love the excitement of beginning language study…it’s so fun. The giddiness of learning another language is quite pleasurable.

I hope that French will fade a bit so that Mandarin can take center stage in my cerebral cortex. My mother has already decided that she will only speak to me in Chinese, so that will probably help, although I can understand perhaps 30% of what she says. Calling and visiting home will be an immersion experience of sorts.

I am very scattered today.

Xian4zai4 wo3men xue2xi4!

p.s. it’s been awhile since I’ve taken any language courses, so suggestions on how to approach it are welcome…flashcards?

8 Comments »

  1. Oh, my Chinese is so horrible. Whenever I try to think of how to say something in Mandarin, Spanish comes out instead… although recently I discovered my Shanghainese is better than my sisters’, so that was kind of fun. In college I took some French and Portuguese too and before long there was a happy Latin jumble in my mind. At least these languages are all solidly in my head somewhere; I’ve dreamt in them all more than once.

    Flashcards worked well for me in a strictly short-term sense. I used to drill myself with them while walking to campus for each quiz; then, fortified by the walk and the drill, I’d ace each quiz, and promptly forget 80% of the words by the time the week was over.

    Good luck! See– I don’t even know how to say that in Chinese! Um… buena suerte!!

    Comment by lisa — June 24, 2008 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

  2. Man, I loved every little bit of language-learning I’ve ever done, even though I’ve never spent more than a few years on any single language. But studying Tibetan this past semester was cool, especially after having had a bit of linguistics (phonetics and phonology). As far as strategies go, I’m pretty convinced that the only one that works is talking to native speakers a lot, although then you have to take into account differences in dialects and vernaculars. Have fun!

    Comment by Coconuts — June 24, 2008 @ 10:40 pm | Reply

  3. fun-ness! i also recommend post-its with the mandarin name of objects aaaallll over the house. with flashcards, you need to decide to sit down and study vocab. with post-its, it’s in your daily life. of course, the vocab is therefore a bit limited to household items…

    Comment by mb — June 26, 2008 @ 5:27 pm | Reply

  4. thanks for the suggestions, y’all. I am definitely going to flash-card it, for idle bus stop time…and ms. babe, I think post its are a good idea. I’ve always admired your imaginative use of post its. Perhaps I shall also stick post its to the chests of my nearest and dearest (“boyfriend” and “friend” etc) in order to supplement the household items vocab.

    xie4xie ni3men!

    Comment by apricot — June 26, 2008 @ 6:31 pm | Reply

  5. ha! yes, post-its on people: when i was learning german, i did this with my roommate and when she inquired what exactly i was doing when i put a little postit with “die zimmerkollegin” on it (pronounce the article as “dee” to mean the female roommate) and i said, oh, it means roommate in german, she was like “DIE (as in death) roommate??” hilarity ensued. after we got to know each other better. maybe you had to be there.

    Comment by msbabe — June 26, 2008 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

  6. that IS funny…I always thought German was a somewhat morbid language…

    Comment by apricot — June 29, 2008 @ 10:39 am | Reply

  7. My French and my German hate each other, and as of right now my French has kicked my German’s ass. Every time I try to build a German sentence in my head I get 80% French vocab with German grammar.

    Sorry I’ve been a bad blogger and a bad commenter recently. The University where I’m currently working will not give me guest network access and I’ve had to make do with twice-weekly internet cafe visits.

    Comment by Lindy — July 11, 2008 @ 4:54 am | Reply

  8. Lindy, that’s probably the first time that something French has kicked the ass of something German in a long while.

    Can’t wait to read about your England trip and more wedding plans when you have more internet access.

    Comment by apricot — July 13, 2008 @ 11:58 am | Reply


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